people are talking of anothert patch this week with some changes to classes etc ?

esp about some Pala nerfs ?

is this right ? cant say i can find any mention of them on official site ?

3.0.3 will be installed with this week's maintenance. Check out blue.mmo-champion.com for Blue posts regarding Pally nerfs. Don't think there is anything significant for Druids, but I may have missed something.

yea, they're nerfing ret pallies

praise the jeebus! they've been basically 2 shotting me in bg's and i have over 400 resil and ~11,00 health

i haven't seen anything about any incoming nerfs for druids either

yeah pallys are just urgghhhhh.

whats with that magic thing they can do to limit your movement speed in any shape or form or mount for like 15 secs ?

along with rogues they are the white van man of wow !

i'll try to find details on that site Oiy. ty.

Don't think there is anything significant for Druids, but I may have missed something.The AP boost for TF has been reduced, but the reason you use TF isn't for the AP boost, but for the free energy from KotJ. So, this is a minor change.

And I think Survival Instincts has been taking off the GCD. That is a really nice buff. As it allows you to make this nice bear emergency macro...

/use health stone
/use potion
/cast Lifeblood <-- herbalism spell
/use 13 <-- trinkets
/use 14 <-- trinkets
/cast Survival Instincts
/cast Barkskin <-- or you might prefer /cast Frenzied Regeneration

I don't know that 3.0.3 is going live this weeks maintenance or not, and I haven't seen anything saying specifically so or not. We'll have to wait and see I suppose ;)

/use health stone
/use potion
/cast Lifeblood <-- herbalism spell
/use 13 <-- trinkets
/use 14 <-- trinkets
/cast Survival Instincts
/cast Barkskin <-- or you might prefer /cast Frenzied Regeneration


I would go FR only because I have made barkskin a regular part of my tanking rotation, and I went from Kara off tank to T5 main tank with very few gear upgrades...20% reduction of all incomng damage is huge! Hug a healer and cast Barkskin early and often! :)

Also, I would just use the Potion since you may not always have health stones but if you do the combo of all those things is gonna result in some waisted HP buffs you may need later. Just my trinkets + SI + FR will normally get me ~50%-75% health then you have incoming heals too.

Plus you have to add a fun raid warning to the macro...

/rw "Holy Schnickies!!! Solar needs a heal!"

I forget about barkskin, I think I need to add it to some other button (maybe /castsequence with FFF??) so it is part of my normal rotation.

yeah i'd forgotten about barksin to ! :o

well if anyone has the notes and can cut and paste into here as i cant see anything outside the firewall.....

I forget about barkskin, I think I need to add it to some other button (maybe /castsequence with FFF??) so it is part of my normal rotation.

I would not bind it with FFF only because I think you lose 3-4 secs of damage reduction while your are positioning the mobs (LOS or whatever) The reduction is only 12 secs so I like to hold off popping it until I am taking a beating.

I reccomend macro'ing it with swipe. The logic being with the maul glyph (every bear should have), you are only using swipe when you are trying to hold 3+ targets. With 3+ targets beating on you, your healer's got their work cut out for them! (one warning, it does eat up a GCD, so when you are need to hit many targets fast, this could be bad)

You can't cast both in one macro, so I was going to put it on FFF as that button is within easy reach for me.

So, press button once on pull for FFF and next time I press it will cast barkskin. I'd use a macro like this...

/castsequence [stance:1] reset=5/target FFF, barkskin

I haven't tried this yet, so I'm not sure how practical it will be while playing. This probably won't work so well as FFF is now part of a good tanking rotation since it causes fair amount of threat. Which means I mash FFF whenever I don't have rage to do anything else.

I do something similar with my cat version of FFF now that Rake has been buff'd so much. This is great while attacking quest mobs....

/castsequence [stance:3] reset=10/target FFF, Rake

So when I pull a mob in cat form, I just mash that button twice, then mangle....FB.

so i guess 3.0.3 will be coming this week then as it did not arrive last ?

It's a safe bet it will be on a Tuesday/Wednesday depending on your location ;). If it's this week or next, I haven't heard anything definitive yet.

Edited: I can't read. :P

from the notes druids are also getting their talent points refunded again ?

which if true is quite nice as i think i'll try an oomkin spec briefly ahead of wrath.