Where are you spending the majority (not necessarily all) of your talent points? Are you specializing in restoration, balance, or feral, or not specializing in any, and going for a mix?

Rawr
Feral :)

Here's my current build at level 21 and below that what I plan on having at level 30 and at level 40.

Level: 21


Balance Talents (1 point)

# Nature's Grasp - 1/1 point
While active, any time an enemy strikes the caster, they have a 35% chance to become afflicted by Entangling Roots (Rank 1). Only usable outdoors. 1 charge. Lasts 45 seconds.


Feral Combat Talents (3 points)

# Ferocity - 3/5 points
Reduces the cost of your Maul, Swipe, Claw, and Rake abilities by 3 Rage or Energy.


Restoration Talents (8 points)

# Improved Mark of the Wild - 4/5 points
Increases the effects of your Mark of the Wild spell by 28%.

# Furor - 4/5 points
Gives you a 80% chance to gain 10 Rage when you shapeshift into Bear form.



Level: 30


Balance Talents (1 point)

# Nature's Grasp - 1/1 point
While active, any time an enemy strikes the caster, they have a 35% chance to become afflicted by Entangling Roots (Rank 1). Only usable outdoors. 1 charge. Lasts 45 seconds.


Feral Combat Talents (7 points)

# Ferocity - 5/5 points
Reduces the cost of your Maul, Swipe, Claw, and Rake abilities by 5 Rage or Energy.

# Improved Bash - 2/2 points
Increases the stun duration of your Bash ability by 1 second.


Restoration Talents (13 points)

# Improved Mark of the Wild - 5/5 points
Increases the effects of your Mark of the Wild spell by 35%.

# Furor - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to gain 10 Rage when you shapeshift into Bear form.

# Nature's Focus - 3/5 points
Gives you a 36% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting the Healing Touch or Regrowth spells.



Level: 40


Balance Talents (8 points)

# Nature's Grasp - 1/1 point
While active, any time an enemy strikes the caster, they have a 35% chance to become afflicted by Entangling Roots (Rank 1). Only usable outdoors. 1 charge. Lasts 45 seconds.

# Improved Nature's Grasp - 4/4 points
Increases the chance for your Nature's Grasp to entangle an enemy by 65%.

# Swiftshifting - 3/3 points
Reduces the delay before using spells and abilities by 1.5 seconds after having shapeshifted.


Feral Combat Talents (8 points)

# Ferocity - 5/5 points
Reduces the cost of your Maul, Swipe, Claw, and Rake abilities by 5 Rage or Energy.

# Improved Demoralizing Roar - 1/5 point
Increases the Attack Power reduction of your Demoralizing Roar by 5%.

# Improved Bash - 2/2 points
Increases the stun duration of your Bash ability by 1 second.


Restoration Talents (15 points)

# Improved Mark of the Wild - 5/5 points
Increases the effects of your Mark of the Wild spell by 35%.

# Furor - 5/5 points
Gives you a 100% chance to gain 10 Rage when you shapeshift into Bear form.

# Nature's Focus - 5/5 points
Gives you a 60% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting the Healing Touch or Regrowth spells.

Going Restoration for sure. I was originally going to add a smattering of Balance but I've been rethinking going with two heavy mana using trees. Seems I either heal or do damage and I can do damage either melee or casting. I figure I have time to make that decision though as I work on the Restoration Tree. I do love big damage spells, but should I feel the need for a BOOM! I will make a mage alt.

Knew I was going Restoration from day one, the big question was what to do with the "leftover" points afterwards. Considered dipping into Feral but have given up on that, seems like a tiny bit of Balance up to Omen of Clarity with Moonfire crits is the way to go.

Once you get level 60, will you have enough talent points to get every single attribute, or will you be short?

Or will it be like EQ and getting Alternate Advancement points once you get level 60?

You pretty much have to pick a direction... no talent points past 60, as far as I know, so 51 points total... not even close to enough to max out all the talents.

My Build By Level 60


Balance Talents (11 points)

# Nature's Grasp - 1/1 point
While active, any time an enemy strikes the caster, they have a 35% chance to become afflicted by Entangling Roots (Rank 1). Only usable outdoors. 1 charge. Lasts 45 seconds.

# Improved Nature's Grasp - 4/4 points
Increases the chance for your Nature's Grasp to entangle an enemy by 65%.

# Improved Entangling Roots - 3/3 points
Gives you a 100% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting Entangling Roots.

# Nature's Reach - 2/2 points
Increases the range of your Wrath, Entangling Roots, Faerie Fire (caster form only), Moonfire, and Starfire spells by 20%.

# Omen of Clarity - 1/1 point
Imbue the Druid's weapon with natural energy. Each hit has a chance of causing the caster to enter a Clearcasting state. The Clearcasting state reduces the Mana cost of your next damage or healing spell by 100%. The Omen of Clarity enchantment lasts 5 minutes.



Feral Combat Talents (0 points)

# None


Restoration Talents (40 points)

# Improved Mark of the Wild - 5/5 points
Increases the effects of your Mark of the Wild spell by 35%.

# Improved Healing Touch - 5/5 points
Reduces the mana cost of your Healing Touch spell by 15%.

# Nature's Focus - 5/5 points
Gives you a 60% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting the Healing Touch or Regrowth spells.

# Gift of Nature - 1/1 point
Increases the effect of your Healing Touch, Rejuvenation, Regrowth, and Tranquility spells by 5%.

# Reflection - 5/5 points
Allows 15% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting.

# Improved Rejuvenation - 5/5 points
Increases the effect of your Rejuvenation spell by 15%.

# Improved Tranquility - 2/2 points
Gives you a 80% chance to avoid interruption caused by damage while casting your Tranquility spell.

# Nature's Swiftness - 1/1 point
When activated, your next Nature spell becomes an instant cast spell.

# Subtlety - 5/5 points
Reduces the threat generated by your healing spells by 20%.

# Improved Regrowth - 5/5 points
Increases the critical effect chance of your Regrowth spell by 50%.

# Innervate - 1/1 point
Increases the target's Mana regeneration by 400% and allows 100% of the target's Mana regeneration to continue while casting. Lasts 20 seconds.

Is 60 the max level of the game? its gonna be tough escpiacally for druids, if we chose to focus our spells, its going to get hetict to balance (no pun intended) everything out....

I am going mostly restoration, with a bit of balance. When I have to solo, they will be nice skills. I don't enjoy the feral part of our class as much as the druid form part.

Going with restoration, however been thinking about switching over to more of a mixture for leveling.

Have more of a question than anything I guess about choosing points. It seems to me that the druid class was built as a jack of all trades ( healer, buffer, melee, debuffer ) so wouldn't it best serve the class to evenly distribute your skill points? Someone specializing in balance lets say, will get the "hurricane" ability but when can you channel in a group without getting hit? Since you are a healing class it not likely you will have a priest to shield you. So it just seems even distribution is the way to go for someone who likes to solo as well as group.

Just my 2cp.

Restoration here, with a bit of balance :-)

Feral and Restoration, no plans for balance at this time

Nearly identical to the long post above. Full restoration with 11 points in Balance (gotta get that omen fellas, it's worth it). It's been great so far, if you are smart you can nearly replace an equal lvl healer (only if you have a paly along for the ride, timerless res is needed). Last watermark, HT critted highest for 3700, and that was back at lvl 52.

going feral with a little balance. no restoration at all...

I see a lot of druids going restoration but what I wanna try is pure cat in PVP. also going to get natures grasp and swiftshifting, and extended spell range.

getting all cat related skills in Feral, came up to like 35 points i beleive.

Balance and restoration for me. I love my feral forms, don't get me wrong, but I felt that it was better to put it into more caster type talents.. the better to group with =)

Have more of a question than anything I guess about choosing points. It seems to me that the druid class was built as a jack of all trades ( healer, buffer, melee, debuffer ) so wouldn't it best serve the class to evenly distribute your skill points? Someone specializing in balance lets say, will get the "hurricane" ability but when can you channel in a group without getting hit? Since you are a healing class it not likely you will have a priest to shield you. So it just seems even distribution is the way to go for someone who likes to solo as well as group.

Just my 2cp.

when i first started out i tended to agree with that, and still do to some extent, however, it doesnt really seem to work that well overall. I found if you try to distribute your points evenly, yes you will be "well rounded", but you will also be fairly mediocre in everything you do, which is what started to happen to me. luckily i noticed this around lvl 30 and decided to respec... but once again i did a poor job a respec-ing in regards to my playing style becase i dumped most everything into restoration, then balance, and 0 in feral. at the time i RARELY, dare i say never?, used bear/cat form. several lvls later i discovered the wonders of these forms, mainly for survival reasons =) so now im lvl 45 using bear/cat form often with 0 points in feral and im feeling, um, lost? misguided? i really need to do some work on my trees.
unfortunately the groups i play with lately are very demanding of my druid, always wanting heals, but also wanting me to tank (even in a group with myself, 2 rogues, and 2 pallys!!?! whats that all about?) didnt stick w/ that group too long, lol. i love solo-ing (plus im guildless now) and in that respect i like the flexiblity of having high dmg spells, lots of pts in restoration for healing, and still using bear form mainly for the protection.
i agree with everyone's comments that your specs should reflect your play style, but i need help b/c i want to do it all!! it think i will work on it some tonight and try it out, maybe keep a decent amount in restoration, but beef up feral by taking points out of balance. i need more points!!
also, any help/pointers from anyone here would be much appreciated. sorry i am at work and do not know the exact #s of how i am currently spec'd, something like 24/rest, 0/feral, 13/balance... does that sound right for lvl 45?
thanks in advace!

So, it would be better to go mainly Restoration/Balance? right now I'm only a 42 NE Druid(windrunner) so i'm mainly focusing on Restoration, and i think i might've messed up and put a point into something else too but my question still remains.... Email me(tulhandler@yahoo.com) or post on here... thanks!

i still say it depends on how you play, what you like, and who you play with... i did a slight respec last week which i like, i had 16 balance and the rest restoration... i now have 13 in balance and the rest in restoration (26 i think). if you are doing to be in a group all the time w/ other healers then you may want to go all out feral (maybe some balance) you know? after much thinking i am quite happy w/ how i am spec'd... as you can see i dont have any great insight on all of this, i play for FUN and im spec'd to where i can play and have fun!

Restore - I have 31 in restore now at 51 and 9 in Ballance and have just started adding to feral tree but the idea of Subtlety is real appealing. May have to rethink the last few points.

feral is by far the worst talent tree for the druid, it doenst help you in pvp really and not at all in dungeons i have mostly balance.i have i think 13 on restoration to boost my motw up and the regen health abilty becuz i have so much spirit.

I am speced totally Feral. I see where others may disagree with that choice.

I like it and the Guild I play in has come to see that a Druid does not have to spec restoration as the onlyu choice.

I may change my mind at end game but for now at LVL 53 it works.

I'm balance specced. 1k+ crits with starfire are worth it. Pallies usually don't heal until they get low on life and it's nice to see them drop from about 1/3 to dead in 1 hit.

The cast on SF is brutal.

I like hit em with an sf and a mf, catshift, try and get them rooted, and then spam wrath with the occasional MF crit.

Improved Stun, Feral Charge are necessities for PvP IMHO, Improved prowl is more useful now that our cat form has increased DPS (1.7 patch changes) , and will probably help more when 1.8 hits ...

Yeah, how far down the tree is prowl?

prowl is around 10 i believe.

I myself is 31 resto with a feral-gear build (12k armor ftw!).

How good would I do in pvp/bg with a full cat/resto build?

I'm going to keep it feral/resto pretty evenly, save for my 5 in balance for NG.

im lvl 32 atm and have spent all my talent points into balance

after i get moonkin form might spend some in restoration for improved healing

Going Feral/Restoration here, with a point in Balance. So... 1/35/15 when I'm done, hopefully.

Currently low feral build. Low meaning I am just a lvl 18 and so I have little talent points to spend.

y current build is 0/6/3

When/If I reach 60 I will possibly look at the 31/20/0 build discussed in a another thread that looks appealing and goes along with my play style.

I do not play much 1-2 hrs a day so by the time I get to 60 the expansion will likely be out and I may have to rethink my plans.

Edit I am now thinking of goind 31/15/5 to give me teh five points in furor I have come to love teh instant energy/rage now that I am a lvl 23

Restoration/Feral I think. The build I'm toying with from the talent calculator is 0/20/31. Having no points at all in Balance is making me a bit nervous, but I'm hoping it'll all work out in the end.

Besides, I'm only a lvl 17. I can always respec if I'm being young and stupid. :lol:

Right now I don't group all that often and I'm usually solo'ing beyond what I should ( though often make it out alive *whew* ). I'm a 37 NE and when I do group there's a resto druid and usually a priest that cover healing quite well.

With that in mind I'm currently working on the 14/32/5 spec as it has served me best for soloing but allows me to do enough healing in groups when called upon.

Once I hit 60 I'm sure I'll respec again, maybe, probably.

At the moment I am feral for leveling (level 40), it is as far as I can tell very much the fastest way to level, if you plan on soloing of course.
The plan is to hit 60 using this feral build, then switch to balance, I know people dont feel alot of love for the Moonkin form but I just have to give it a go.
With the balance build I am aware that I will be wearing alot of cloth if I want the +damage gear.

I know people dont feel alot of love for the Moonkin form but I just have to give it a go.

That's not too true. I'm on the Feathermoon server and many of my druid friends (and acquaintences) are moonkins. Quinafoi (59), a great PvP player, is a moonkin. Fugikuro (60), Lossemenel's er... /really/ good friend, is a moonkin.

oonkins, I find, are successful if you wish to go PvP. While not called on as much in a high end group... but neither are ferals (unless the melee wanted that extra 3% crit chance)... so usually both get stuck as main healer or backup healer. Which leads one to be tempted to respec as resto to get more groups...

Cloth for +damage? There's a lot of good leather items out there for +damange... and also some for +mana regen. While lowering down to wear cloth is... not advised... well, hey. It's better than 'healing pallys' dropping down to wear cloth for the +intel and +healing...

I am a Druid noobie, I just made my first one and at LVL 11. I think I am going to go resto/feral with a bit of balance. Not sure yet though. If anyone has any ideas what would be a good build for a Druid noobie, please post them!

Ailiana,

I was a total WoW newbie ( as well as to games of the genre in general ) when I created my druid. I created a few other characters, but none of them grabbed me like the way you could be so versatile with the druid.

If you do more solo'ing than not, I recommed going more feral with at least a few points in balance to get the Natural Shapeshfiter talents to reduce the mana cost of shifting.

If you group up more often than not, or are more comfortable healing and doing damage with spells, then focus on the balance and resto trees. You should probably wait till you hit 20 and get the cat form before you really decide what direction you want to persue. The cat form opens up SO much IMO.

No one goes Moonkin? How sad. =.=

feral is by far the worst talent tree for the druid, it doenst help you in pvp really and not at all in dungeons i have mostly balance.i have i think 13 on restoration to boost my motw up and the regen health abilty becuz i have so much spirit.

feral is the worst? i dont want to flat out say LRN2PLY....but...yeah...

Yeah, i agree, stealth sux for PvP.....40% run with the flag sux too. *SARCASM TO THE MAX*

At about level 25 I re-specced from a mix to 0/all/5 (max out MoW) and I love it. I solo alot but really enjoy grouping and find I do a passable job as a healer. Now at level 39 I've almost maxed out the feral abilities I want, and am building the resto tree to enhance my healing.

It seems to me that there are two things that make druids unique- our versatility, and shapeshifting. I find our abilities while shapeshifted enhance our versatility, to the point that many people I play with are envious of all the things I can do. Just today I was grouped with a level 41 paladin who noted that in cat form my shred and ravage strikes from behind would turn the mobs away from him very often.

It's that kind of ability that drives my build thus far.

Resto for sure, still have not decided on balance or feral. Not sure which would be better if I were off soloing.

At first, I wasn't sure where I was heading, so up until lvl40 I had an even mix of all three trees. At that point, I decided I wanted to try a balance spec and go for Moonkin form. I spent about two levels with that spec until I decided that it wasn't for me. I respecced to feral because I play solo a lot and panther form is seriously good for that, and because I often have to tank for my guild. I've never looked back.

Ok i am a lvl 20 druid and not sure which way to go with this ?

Any advice?

I have to be honest and do struggle understanding the whole skill tree thing ?

;o(

help!

I've been lvl 60 for about 2 months now. I'm spec'd 40 resto/ 11 balance but at the moment I'm getting bored of the game... With this spec its much more difficult to solo. And I'm looking for a new spec without having to go feral and lose innervate. Do you have any suggestions?

I'm looking at going 0/30/21 so I don't have to lose feral, but I don't gain innvenerate.

I've heard of a number of people doing 0/20/31 and being fairly pleased with it, but I cannot give any personal experience.

Feral, cat specced.

0/31/20

This build works perfectly for me and my playing style. In the newer 5-main instance runs, I can dish out some mean dps, the rogues and hunters adore LotP, and I switch to healing if the priest or main healer runs out of mana or needs backup. I rarely use bear unless I've pulled too much aggro with an AoE or healing, and I've put no points toward bear-specific talents. I can still pop out of cat to throw a moonfire to stop a runner from aggroing more mobs instead of chasing them down.

I tried to give consideration to group-friendly talents such as improved MotW and LotP. I'm not gunning to out-dps a rogue or out-heal a priest. Instead, I enjoy working to improve the whole party and have successful, fun runs. I opted out of Furor, which is my biggest regret, in favor of some other resto talents that serve parties and raids more effectively, imo.

I also do a lot of grinding for profession items (mainly essences), and being cat specced makes what used to be a chore (before I respecced to cat) now quick and even enjoyable.

Being cat also rocks in PvP, and I can still change out to heal as needed.

I also enjoy the extra points in Feral Instict, which puts me in fine shape to do stealth runs and stealth/solo instances. All around good times.

I love being feral specced. The only downside for me is carrying around all the extra gear, but even that is fun to experiment with (crit vs attack, etc.). Perhaps the best part is knowing that if I get bored with my current build, I can respec and go for off-tanking or venture back into balance without having to reroll and build back up to 60.

I'm going all balance because... Well, it's only the last spell that makes me want to do it... The turning into a ferbolg one...

Feral. :clap:

feral while i level up (35 now) and gain rank in BG/random PvP. I believe I am 1-18-5 right now.

i'll pay more attention to a template as i get closer to the big Six-oh.

Just respec'd from Feral (0/31/20 build) but have moved to 24/0/27 Bal/Resto now that Innervate will be a trained talent as of 1.11.

I have a question, what happens when Burning Crusades comes out, do we get another 10 talent points to play with once lvl'd to 70?

With that in mind I'm currently working on the 14/32/5 spec as it has served me best for soloing but allows me to do enough healing in groups when called upon.

That's almost how I am specced atm (14/31/6 (http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?zzLVhoZxGMssbdtI)) and I am tanking more and more lately in instances :) Only problem I notice now is that w/o points on resto I lack in healing... Like last night in Scholo (I was the only healer atm in this guild run), even with my blue healing gear they were dieing faster then I could heal...

Question for feral peeps: Did you also put points in 'Feral Aggresion', 'Thick Hide' and/or 'Primal Fury' because those are the only feral talents I haven't put points in.

Leveled up with an odd resto build through about 42, then switched to the "full feral" 14/32/5 until I hit 60 and changed to 0/30/21 Feral/NS. Like it a lot.

Primal Fury I wouldn't skip. When you combine it with the crit talents and Ferocity, and you can get long runs with a lot of Mauls in a row. That really, really helps your dps and therefore your ability to both hold aggro and kill in bear.

Thick Hide is also very, very good. Not only does it work in cat and caster form, making you somewhat less squishy, but it's a MULTIPLICATIVE bonus with bear/dire bear form. That means with 5/5 Thick Hide in Dire Bear form, you're getting 5.06x armor for your items, not 4.7. I just got a trinket tonight with 150 armor on it which raised my armor in Dire Bear form by 759. That's pretty major.

Feral Aggression is fine, it's just not as good as Ferocity, so most people just skip it. I wouldn't lose any sleep over that one.

best talent on the feral tree is imp shred ffs! :D

I <3 thick hide and would not give it up for anything. :D I do regret skipping Primal Fury and Blood Frenzy (though not as much on the latter) though. I actually like Feral Aggression better than Ferocity, but it's your choice. I like them to hit me for less and for Ferocious Bite (one of my favorite cat form moves, I have to say) to do more damage. :D

Nope, Goa. Best feral tree talent is Heart of the Wild. XD

Call me crazy, but I enjoy being a healer.
Nonetheless a healer than can dish out a decent ass-kicking when the time comes.

Resto.

feral is by far the worst talent tree for the druid, it doenst help you in pvp really and not at all in dungeons i have mostly balance.i have i think 13 on restoration to boost my motw up and the regen health abilty becuz i have so much spirit.

ROFL? I'm going with the 14/31/5 build and so far (at level 43) I solo beautifully and can tank well in instances. Not to mention I can heal just fine as long as I have my wonderful int/spir gear on me, and I can beat any class I come across in PVP, except warlocks.

But seriously, who CAN beat warlocks?!

With my success as being a dominate predator in world pvp, I dont think I'll be respeccing any time soon :P

Stealth + Track Humanoids ftw <3

I am primarily Feral right now. I may respec balance, once I have enough to go straight to moonkin. What I love is that I can change if I do not like the way things are.

I solo/duo mostly, right now. That will change in my 40s and 50s, when hubby and I catch up with the RL friends we want to play with.

Currently Feral, but will go resto when i hit 60. I voted feral since im still at least a month from lvl 60.

Ok, I respec'd at 39 to balance. Did not like it much. Kept it because I wanted to make a friend laugh with the moonkin dance.

I am now 42, and LOVING balance. My only issue is I do seem to go low mana more often (when I was feral, the only time I was low mana was when I would duo with RL hubby). But that is to be expected, since when I was feral, I almost never cast spells, and now... :).

ay respec later, but for now, I am happy.

I am feral spec'd and couldn't think of doing anything different. I carry 4 sets of gear with me right now (not a big problem since a guildy fashioned me some 16 slot bags :). I use Item Rack which is great!!! I have some pretty good gear for my lvl (46) NE Druid. I have a Bear set (Str/Sta), Cat Set (Agi/Str), A Caster set (Int/Spi/Sta), and a Healing Set (MONDO +healing and Int). Its easy to swap out and in when I need to do a different role. Main issue being keeping all sets up to date with the best gear. Most recently I went with my Guild into BRD as the MAIN healer...woot! (No Priests/Druids on-line so they brought the newb healer for a show ((they told me later they thought they would wipe))That was a blast...never used innervate so much! My Guild even commented on the GREAT job I did (mostly HoT's with some emergency HT thrown in for crit hits) But my point is, I was a main healer with healing gear, but was spec'd feral. That way I got the best of both worlds. I know this will start to change as I get into the end games, but I was happy that I could do such a good job (no deaths!). I have a similar tactic in BG when I want to go Caster (all day moonfire spammage):devil:

Mostly Resto with a touch of balance here and there...

Atm.. im feral... and prolly going in this specing way..

1-39 Feral
40-49or59 Balance
50or60+ Restro...

i do 1-39 Feral.. becuase i usually dont get in a lot of grps at those lvls and there arent that many instances i have to worry about being part healer.. well untill SM..

at 40 im switching to balance mostly becuase i love the moonkin form... I LOVE THEIR DANCE!!
i also like that aoe they have... and the casting damage is amazing....

at 50or60 im switching to restro becuase when all the major instance grps needs healers... and i would love to get the lvl 50 qeust armor with +heals and be able to use it very weal..

at 60 i really want want to do AQ40/Nax/Other high instances... i really wanna do ZG.. and get all the teir 3 armor set.. mostly becuase it looks soooooooooooooo awesome...
and get in alot of grps..

and i wanna tree form...
I REALLY wanna see how funny the dance is for tree form...

was always pretty much fully feral with a little balance.

13/38/0 all the way to 60 and raiding MC/ZG/AQ20/BWL.

Changed a couple months back now as the guild was getting short of healers / druids.

So 0/31/20 now.

i was surprised to find so many resto ppl on this poll :) seeing as everyone who posts alot seems to be feral

back to more feral now with BC and the fact i'm not raiding bwl etc anymore.

summat like 0/46/15

i like balence because u can get moonkin form. when ur in moonkin u can cast balese spells andur stronger

Fully Feral Baby! And loving it!

I am going for Feral but I also thought that it would be good to get some restoration points in. The hardest thing that I have had to deal with is which thread to put points into first. I mean I need the power but I get sick of dying if a quicker heal spell could save my life.

I went Balance the day before BC came out, and I havent looked back since. I love it so much, it rocks for pvp :)

I'm going feral but will be adding some resto...omen might come in handy.