Hey all,

Noob here and I've been reading some fourms where everyone is bitching because Pally's and Warlocks I think? Get free mounts.

My main question is, what does a mount help you with "other" then just getting there twice as fast? Are their any other positive things a mount can do to be worth that much money other then just looking "cool". ?

Thank you in advance.

Also, I'm a lvl 33 Druid so if I have to start saving up for this mount should I start saving now or be somewhere certain to do so? So I dont have to wait 4 years till I can afford it?

Thank you again.

:grin:

You're a druid, so here goes...

Travel form (cheetah) = 40% faster movement speed, and you can switch while in combat and you can do melee damage. Only used outside.

Mount (100 gold @ level 40) = 60% faster movement speed. You can't attack or cast any spells while mounted. You can not get on your mount if you're in combat. Only used outside.

Epic Mount (1000 gold @ level 60) = 100% faster movement speed, but otherwise the same as standard mount.


So other than looking cool, and getting there 60% faster, no they don't do anything. If you're on a PvP server you can use a mount to outrun the guy who doesn't have one, which can be the difference of living or dieing.

This clears a lot of things up for me. Thank you for your quick response.

I want to add this, which is why I posted this thread to begin with. While reading over at Allakhazam.com on the WoW forums. Somebody posted this..

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Mounts are special pre-40. Once you hit level 40, you're gimped if you don't have it.

Yeah, I've said it. Gimped. Mount is the only 'equipment' that's considered essential in this game.
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So, he/she is saying that the ONLY thing essential for the game is having that mount at 40... Is he/she overreacting a bit or is this just me?

Again, thanks Milhouse for answering, much appreciated. Basically what I can look forward to at lvl 40 is to pay 90g to be 20% quicker (meaning faster then cheetah form).

I didn't get my mount till 50, didn't miss it, use it, but use cheetah much more. Mount takes like 2 seconds or so to use, kinda annoying. Mount is probably biggest for long movement with your guild, like running from nijels to mara and from the keep over to the temple, that kind of thing. I'm saying, don't go broke at 40 to get it, get it when your comfortable with paying out around 90g to buy it. IMO, my money was better spent on proper gear in the level 40s than I would have ever realized buying the mount

If you group for instances a lot a mount will help you get to the group faster. Being the last one to a party sometimes gets you noticed to the point that you are not first choice next time.

Also, a lot of the areas you hunt in for your later levels are Barrens size, or at least they seem to be. Many quests have you running from one remote spot to another. (I can't think how many times in my 50s I have had to return to Ratchet to talk to one of the little green men there). 20% may not seem like a lot, but it is when you go charging through an area where the MoBs aggro on you and start to follow. Many people go to great lengths to get the "carrot on a stick" and "mithril spurs" for even a little more speed.

After level 40 you will find that the gold starts to come easier. My advice to you is to not worry about it too much until you have that 90 gold. When you have the cost of the mount, THEN you need to decide, but not really before.

I love my raptor but I never had to make the decision. A friend gave me my raptor as a birthday gift. :) I do, however, keep my ghost wolf spell close at hand in case I need a fast escape. I even spent two skill points to hasten the cast time (I play a shaman). Your mount will never replace your spells, just enhance your play time.

Mounts are not essential at all, especially for druids. I can't really understand why someone would go off hunting grey creatures for hours to get the gold, when the mount will save you a minute at most getting anywhere. They're fun and nice to have but unless you want a status symbol, don't go mad buying it.

PvP servers you will need one.

Reason:

To catch runners.


You will never catch someone who has a mount, unless you can get within root range.

If you don't have nature's swiftness, it is hard to do anything but use feline swiftness + dash for 15 seconds and see if they screw up. If not, you will never get close enough to be able to stand still and cast long enough to root.


Also helps during raids to get from place to place the fastest so that opposition doesn't have more time to prepare.

On non-PVP servers I don't think a mount is as dire for us as for other classes. Spending your money and staying caught up with your spells will be more useful during those levels than scrimping and saving for a mount. The 20% difference between the mount and cheetah is definitely a nice boost, but as others have stated, the mount isn't nearly as diverse as the cheetah form. I still use cheetah @60 when I have quick jaunts or when I need to make a break. The summoning time of the mount, plus the fact that it gets dispelled when you get dazed just makes cheetah much more viable in certain situations. Plus, I can still gather herbs in cheetah, I gotta get off the kitty to do that :(

I was 45 before I got my kitty - the only thing that was "gimped" about me is that it took me a couple more minutes to get to a destination than it took my group.

I'm 60 and don't have a mount still nor do I plan to get one. :)

<3Chloee

druids, shamans, and hunters do not need to buy mounts, but especially druid. Cheetah is fine as long as you can live with being 20% slower than everyone else at going where you want to go. If you don't care about that, then don't waste the 90g.

I'm 60 and don't have a mount still nor do I plan to get one. :)

<3Chloee

Not to be a wet blanket or anything but... How is this possible? I would think you would get constant complaints about how long you take to join your group at a dungeon or quest location or the like.

I look at your response as a less extreme version of "Oh, sorry, I don't have any flight paths, its a waste of money so I walk everywhere". :)

Understand I really am curious here, and am not slamming you for your choice. =)

Its because we have cheetah. The difference between cheetah and mount is not that big. If we start at the same spot w you on mount and me cheetah its going to be quite a while before you get so far ahead that I don't see you anymore. Say we both run from thelsamar to BRD, I'm gonig to get there like 45 seconds max later than you. Considering people dilly dally all the time anyways, thats not a significant waiting time.

Its because we have cheetah. The difference between cheetah and mount is not that big. If we start at the same spot w you on mount and me cheetah its going to be quite a while before you get so far ahead that I don't see you anymore. Say we both run from thelsamar to BRD, I'm gonig to get there like 45 seconds max later than you. Considering people dilly dally all the time anyways, thats not a significant waiting time.

But that can't still apply at level 60? The difference between 40% and 100% is pretty large.

I can understand it being a lower priority since its just sooooo much gold to earn, but to not even have it be a planned purchase just surprised me.

Epic mounts matter a lot. It's a 40% increase over normal mounts.
A normal mount is only a 20% increase over cheetah. Thus not that big of a deal.

In the end epic mount vs cheetah is just like epic mount vs regular mount.

You can get by with no mount. Hell I still don't have my epic (I do have my regular mount) and I get by alright, although it sucks to have horde be able to pass me, dismount, pmorph/stun me and start fighting. At least if I had an epic they'd need carrot on stick and riding gloves etc to catch me. It's on my last 2 things to get once im done getting my trinket (the other is a 2nd libram to put on my leggings).

I appreciate everyones reponse.

Its much appreciated.

I disagree with the arguement that 20% faster isn't THAT big of a deal. Catching runners in PvP, getting away from those unsuspected PvP encounters, and making long runs.

Take a run from BB to the rebel camp in cheetah while a friend is on their mount. I GUARANTEE that it's much more than a 45 second difference. You guys are minimalizing the difference.

I play on a PvE server, so my pvp experience is limited, but can some one explain why you need a mount to catch runners?

The guy you want to catch is out of spell range (obviously or you would root him). So he mounts up to run away. If you also mount up at the same time you will always be the same distance away and still out of range. (Unless you have an epic mount and he doesn't.)But if you go into cheetah mode while he is trying to summon a mount you have an extra 2 seconds to get into spell range while he standing still.

I disagree with the arguement that 20% faster isn't THAT big of a deal. Catching runners in PvP, getting away from those unsuspected PvP encounters, and making long runs.

Take a run from BB to the rebel camp in cheetah while a friend is on their mount. I GUARANTEE that it's much more than a 45 second difference. You guys are minimalizing the difference.

What runners are you gonna catch w your mount?

First of all he should be rooted if he even thinks about fleeing.
Second of all if he blinds/stuns you and runs, you can't mount until he's out of combat range anyways, in which case he also mounts and you'd have to be wearing carrot on stick and other crappy things to catch him. Third, if he runs your best bet of catching him if hes out of root range is definitely cheetah or cat+dash. You stay in combat range preventing him from mounting, but you move at 140% or 160% vs his 100%. Get in range, root him, and carry on.

Mount plays almost no role in pvp. Epic mounts can, as you can let him get out of combat range, mount up, and still catch him. But if both players have regular mounts, you're not catching anybody. And druid has enough tricks to keep people from running that this shouldn't even be an issue.

As for cheetah vs mount, when we farm un goro crater I often just use cheetah to scout around, and there is no significant difference in how long it takes me to get to a dsaur versus other members who are mounted once the map has been pinged by someone (we farm in a group of 3, one guy finds it and pings map, the two of us go to it 1 on mount 1 cheetah, minimal difference in time to get there).

For 100g, its not necessary as a druid.

it may not be absolutely essential for us like it is for other classes, but what exactly are you guys spending your money on that one needs to rationalize not having a mount? i personally keep my gear within at least 10 lvls of me, do you keep yours more current than that for instance?

At level 40 raising 100g can be hard. While some classes have to do it, we don't.

IMO once you hit level 60 there isn't really an excuse not to get a mount, other than if you are just going to save the 100g and put it towards an epic.

I buy my friends mounts instead :)

not to nit pick too much, but no one pays 100g for a mount. at that point, i think everyone is honored with their race's capital, so they get a 10g discount, making your mount cost 90g. i have lent money to 15 people for mounts, and none of us paid 100g.

I like to round numbers off.

i feel that, but 10g matters at 40. it could mean the difference between going broke on a mount and being able to afford a mount and the new spells which become available.

It's like being the guy with lag, or the guy that doesn't have all the quests in order when you join a group. Fact is, you just don't want to be That Guy. The people who take the game seriously don't like to wait around. I don't take the game that seriously, but I like to have people that do on my side. They are a tremedous help, but they have no patience for people that make them wait for trivial crap. If you don't have a mount in your early 40's you'll be looked at as someone who is lazy and has poor money managment. Sure that extra 45 seconds it takes you to get somewhere is not that big of a deal, but if the group knows that the 45 seconds is caused because you were the one person that wasted all their money and couldn't get a mount, then they will be upset about that and remember that you were That Guy. So start saving now and get your mount before you hit 43. As a side note, you can make about 10 gold per run when you do Scarlett Monastary in your later 30's.

I agree with Jareck.... Race someone with a mount while u stay in cheetah form from bb to the camp in the north... The difference is significant.... I used to party with a pally in STW in my pre 40's.... He hit 40 before me and he always ran away from me doin quests... And belive me, wether it is questing, raiding, or just plain traveling form A to B you WILL eventually find those 20% speed loss annoying... Put a carrot trinket and some mithril spurs on top of that and you will be eating the mounts dust....

I got my mount at 40 without borrowing any money... I farmed basilisk in STW which dropped good loot... I'd get 5-10G from each run(I'm a skinner).. On top of that I'm an enchanter so I activelly advertised my business at that time which also payed off.... I didnt farm for hours and hours, nor did I start to save up for the mount untill my mid 30's...

So saving up for a mount isn't that much of a time consuming pain in the Ass that ppl want it to be....

I have a mount. I would probably miss meing slower than my friends when we're going places.

I have a pretty white mount for a pretty white haired elf. :)