Im in the market for a new computer, the comp I have now stinks more than the crappiest crap in crapville, I've come to term's that and already written an obituary, when I was shopping through Newegg, I found a comp that was a decent price, and had decent tech spec's (At least they seem good anyways, im not exactly computer savvy :lmao: )

Here's the link to the computer:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16883102801

How well will this run WoW and other modern market games?
Also, is the site an american site? Or hopefully a Canadian?

Thanks for taking the time to read this! Cheers!

-MojoTheWh...Wh..WHICKED SICK!

Moved this to off-topic. :)

Newegg has been pretty reliable when I've ordered from them; I believe they're a US company, but as you notice, the PC is actually from Acer.

As for the PC itself, it looks like it'd run WoW decently, if not great. However, I'm not familiar with the graphics card at all (looks like the built-in one?) and you might have to upgrade that, possibly add a little more RAM too.

Yeah I thought so, the graphics card is a crappily-build Intel built in, that I will definately be upgrading, and ill be upping the ram to 1 gig as well, what video card would you suggest? any good CANADIAN sites that have CANADIAN prices for CANADIANS? (hint) Thanks, and sorry for putting this in the wrong main, ^^ Also, since, its American (newegg) the warrinty, is invalid, meaning if something goes wrong, im seal-ed, and theres nothign I can do, but is it worth the risk? any suggestions, or even some help planning a custom made one that I could put together would be most appreciated, thanks TDG!

I don't know any Canadian sites, but as for Canadian prices:

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

I wouldn't buy a PC from Acer.

If you was to buy that, the first thing you need to upgrade is the Power Supply. 300W will not cut it, if you plan to upgrade a single part on it.

Once you open any PC you normally void the warranty anyway. Have to read the fine print, which changes from maker to maker.

Anything above 2ghz with 1gig Ram, and a good video card will run WoW just fine. Remember Windows suckes up a good 256meg on it's own. Another 100ish for virus/firewalls. Then WoW takes 300ish to run correctly in crowded area's. Then add on your UI load.

I would need a price range, if I would recommend a custom PC setup.

Read insert above!

Yeah, a custom job seems the cheapest option at the moment, however noone will take this gauntlet, as I have no computer savvyness in me, exept I know the basic stuff. Still looking around, however, if anyone could suggest a list of parts that would be good running the new age games, that would be more than appreciated, ill even give you the honor of being ganked by your-truley :ange: , I just need a system that will run the games decently, I dont need a monster! REPEAT! NO MONSTER! MONSTER NEED NOT APPLY!.....

I wouldn't buy a PC from Acer.

If you was to buy that, the first thing you need to upgrade is the Power Supply. 300W will not cut it, if you plan to upgrade a single part on it.

Once you open any PC you normally void the warranty anyway. Have to read the fine print, which changes from maker to maker.

Anything above 2ghz with 1gig Ram, and a good video card will run WoW just fine. Remember Windows suckes up a good 256meg on it's own. Another 100ish for virus/firewalls. Then WoW takes 300ish to run correctly in crowded area's. Then add on your UI load.

I would need a price range, if I would recommend a custom PC setup.

Speaking as someone who works in Acer UK technical support call centre I totally agree.

it really depends on just how 'new age' you want? do you want something that will run battlefield 2?

also, i would steer clear of

A, Acer.

B, built in gpu's

they both frighten me.

im a brit otherwise i would get a nice list of specs for you to go by..

but prices etc are vastly different.

I recommend buying a PC from IBuyPower:

http://www.ibuypower.com/mall/lobby.htm

I purchased one from them and so did a friend. Nothing but a positive experience. Even when I had the DvD drive explode a CD on me, they were quick to send me a replacement. I custome built mine, but they have some pre-made packages that are good too. Prices are extremely competitive.

I recommend buying a PC from IBuyPower:
Prices are extremely competitive.

Thanks again so much! You've all been extremely helpful and every one of you has my deepest gratitude for taking the time to answer my questions. However, if anyone has anything else they wish to add, please, you are more than welcome :) And I'm still open ot suggestions for a bustom built computer, which seems like the bes,t and cheapest alternitive. Oh, Fal, I went to IBuyPower, great site, still a bit pricy cause its in Amercian, but good nonetheless, exellent suggestion!

edit: Oh also, what power supply should I go for?

Speaking as someone who works in Acer UK technical support call centre I totally agree.
lol

First off to answer your question, if you want to add future upgrades always look for 400W and up. CPU's of today pull a good 100 watts on their own. Some even lean to the 120 watt mark. A video card(a good one) can pull 100 watts easy on it's own. Then remember, RAM, DVD player/burner, sound card, lan card and USB ports all pull power. PC's pull power as needed, the wattage is not always constant.

Just to give you a idea on power, a 42" plasma TV pulls 387Watts. A 50" Plasma TV pulls 580Watts. It's very easy these days to push the 400+ mark on almost anything.

If you was to go the Intel Pentium route you have two types really on the market. The 5xx series and the 6xx series. What's the difference? Not much but some more cache and 6xx series is enabled to run in 64 bit. Now the otherside of the coin is, Intel plans to enable 64 bit on the 5xx series in the future. The 5xx processor was built to handle 64 bit processes, however it's turned off chip side. Why you might ask? I don't got a dam clue. To make more money is my guess.

Price on a barebones PC Box is as follow's.
intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 800MHz FSB LGA 775 EM64T Processor Model BX80547PG3000F - Retail(3.0 GHZ)
On sale $225.99

ABIT "AA8-DuraMAX" i925X Chipset Motherboard for Intel LGA775 CPU - Retail
$124.00


CORSAIR VALUESELECT Kit 240-Pin 1GB(2 x 512MB) DDR2 PC2-4200, Model VS1GBKIT533D2 - Retail
$87.85

A-Top Z-Alien Black Aluminum PC Gamer Case With 500W PSU & Side window, Model "AT959-BK" - Retail
$89.00

Aopen Black 16X DVD+/- R DVD Burner Support Dual Layer, Model DUW1616ARR BLK, OEM
$39.99


LITE ON 16X DVD-ROM Drive Black, Model SOHD-16P9SBLK, Retail
$24.99

CHAINTECH nVIDIA GeForce 6600 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model "SE6600" -RETAIL
$125.00

Total $716.92 without hard drives. Prices are from newegg.com
This PC can run "almost" any game today. Not the fastest, but a good little PC for normal useage.

You can drop the price more by just picking the cheapest parts money can buy. Then you just built a "budget" system and you can get that from any PC maker. And I bet the farm, you'll hate it and want to upgrade it in 6 months. Then learn you can't due to the cheap parts used to make it.

My first suggestion if you are worried about a warranty and don't want to build yourself is to try to find a local system builder. They are going to be a bit pricier then building yourself, but there's no better support then when you can bring your computer in, instead of calling a help desk.

If you wanted to build your own then read on. I usually use guides as a baseline on what to buy, because I don't stay as current with hardware as I used to. If you're looking to spend under $1000 US (sry), then I'd check out these two guides, they are a little dated, but it's a good starting point and the prices will only be cheaper today.
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2378
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/MVGSBG/article.php/3501646

Warcraft ran great and lag for me with an Athlon XP 2500, ATI 9600 SE, and 1GB memory. It's not exactly future proof, but as long as you get something like that or better, you'll be happy.

Ok, I just got back from Discovery computers, and I have found the comp I want!Weeeeee!

Here are the specs:

Gigabyte Geforce 6600 AGP8XDDR 128M 128bit
Pulse 3-Piece speaker set
Philips 17'' LCD Flatscreen Monitor(booya)
Discovery AMD 64bit 2800
AMD Athlon64 2800+512K BOX
Samsung 80gb HD w/ 2MB Cache
2 Sticks of PC3200 512MB DDR Memory (1 GB)
Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M SOCKET 745 VIAK8M800-3I
Antec SLK1650B Black Case with 350PS and 120MM Fa
LG 52X32X52 CDRW / 16X DVD-ROM

Tell me what you think, and if theres anything in here I should change, the 350PS is due for some consideration, but this list was put together by a professional computer techie, so 350 must be fine for a PS, thanks in advance for your input! Also,
Id like to ask something else: What will the gameplay be like in games like WoW or any other MMO's I get my gamey little mitts on? OK? Good? Awesome! So spectacular that you acutally think you're in the game and you go around wearing crazy tree armor(made exclusively of your backyard) and swing a staff with some glow-wands duck-taped to the end (think about the GLOWing) and proclaiming yourself grand pubah of the Horde and calling every person you see a dirty alliance scum bag poop-head abomonation-dating carebear?


Also, this computer(There was other stuff I left out cause I didnt think they were important) is gunna set me back $1687.15, thats with tax and the fee for the actual construction of the computer.

If you want the most bang for your buck, honestly you should "market watch" Dell. They sometimes stack multiple coupons and you can get a barebones system for under $300. For a gaming rig you usually have to add RAM and a video card (sometimes a hard drive) but it still comes out cheaper than most prebuilts. If you feel confident enough to install those devices, then Dell's the way to go. If not, well then I go with what everyone else has said so far :P

Gigabyte Geforce 6600 AGP8XDDR 128M 128bit

No, don't waste your money on that video card. AGP8X is soo dated. HD is too small for the money your spending. Not even a Raid set up in it. You can do alot better. No DVD writer either. For that price there should be one in it.

Hrm..... If you wanted to spend that much I would've said buy a Dell. My Dell cost me $1702 including the shipping and taxes. And I bought it in March 2005. Some things on it just came out. I.E the 650 P4 series

P4 650 3.4ghz
1 GB DDR2 Ram(PC4200 I think. It was 4000 something)
PCI Express 16x Gforce 6800 with 256 meg DDR Ram
7.1 Creative Sound Card
19" Dell LCD Flatscreen Monitor
2x 160 gig Hardrives /w 8 meg cache, running a Raid 0 setup
16x DVD-ROM
Dual Layer DVD +/- RW

And more misc stuff, plus a crapload of programs.

For close to 1700 you can self build a much better PC. However, I know not all can do this. But if your going to spend 1700 I would buy a dell or go with a bigger little guy maker. Those guys are not giving you the best bang for your buck.

Hm.. This is troubling, I thought this was a reasonable price... also that 1700 rig you have, thats American no? That means that in Canadian that thing costs ooooooh 2,000 dollars, keep in mind Im canadian, and good things come more expensive to us >.> Im still gunna go with this rig, however, ill upgrade it as I see fit, or, if I can find a builder, which I have but hes too fuggin lazy to get back to me, then I'll build it from the ground up.

Also, I requested the HD be smaller, in exchange for a gig of ram, so it equals out.

Anyone else have anything to add? Or even better, inform me in the way's of "market watching" its be greeeeeaatly appreciated. I dont trust my brother with a new comp, so Ill be saving until he gets outta the house (spet.26th), so ill have plenty of cash, so we'll see then.....

TO BE CONTINUED.....

www.fatwallet.com
www.slickdeals.net
www.couponmountain.com

Check the forums for the first two links, most of time the best deals never make it to the front page. The third is just a general collection of coupons for online retailers. If you have a "spam" email account, it's sometimes worth it to sign up for promotional lists like Dell's or Buy.com - many times they send out single-use coupon codes.

This is the setup I got from IBuyPower.com:

The hardware:

Case ( Trinity ATX Mid-Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 6-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black )
Processor ( [939-pin] AMD® Athlon-64 3500+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology )
Operation System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink + 2 Extra Case Fans )
Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-SLI nVidia nForce4-SLI Chipset w/LAN, 7.1 Sound, IEEE-1394, USB 2.0 Dual PCI-E Motherboard )
USB Port ( Build-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Memory ( 1024 MB Dual Channel [512MB X2] DDR-400 PC3200 Memory Module Kingston Hyper-X )
Video Card ( [PCI-Express 16x] Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Hard Drive ( 160 GB HARD DRIVES [S-ATA] Maxtor 160 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Hard Drive )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( Sony DWD-26A Dual Format/Double Layer 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( Creative Lab Sound Blaster Audigy-2 ZS 7.1 )
Network Card ( 10/100 Network Onboard )
Floppy Drive ( Mitsumi 1.44 MB Internal Floppy Drive Black )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty


Total price was just over $1200 US, which included the free shipping and no sales tax.

This is the setup I got from IBuyPower.com:

The hardware:

Case ( Trinity ATX Mid-Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 6-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black )
Processor ( [939-pin] AMD® Athlon-64 3500+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology )
Operation System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink + 2 Extra Case Fans )
Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-SLI nVidia nForce4-SLI Chipset w/LAN, 7.1 Sound, IEEE-1394, USB 2.0 Dual PCI-E Motherboard )
USB Port ( Build-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Memory ( 1024 MB Dual Channel [512MB X2] DDR-400 PC3200 Memory Module Kingston Hyper-X )
Video Card ( [PCI-Express 16x] Nvidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Hard Drive ( 160 GB HARD DRIVES [S-ATA] Maxtor 160 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Hard Drive )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( Sony DWD-26A Dual Format/Double Layer 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( Creative Lab Sound Blaster Audigy-2 ZS 7.1 )
Network Card ( 10/100 Network Onboard )
Floppy Drive ( Mitsumi 1.44 MB Internal Floppy Drive Black )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty


Total price was just over $1200 US, which included the free shipping and no sales tax.



Wow! Thats awesome, maybe I SHOULD consider buying from there, but there are tonnes of alternitives, but, getting from America means no warranty, but that dosent matter cause I might uipgrade it in the future >.> hmmmm did you use any coupons? any special deals? Aaaaaanything? Cause that comp comes out to about 1500 CAD, thanks again for your continuing help everyone, post whatever and whenever you can, because your input is greatly appreciated, I'm glad everyone here works to help people with problems! Thanks 10000000000 times over!

Wow! Thats awesome, maybe I SHOULD consider buying from there, but there are tonnes of alternitives, but, getting from America means no warranty, but that dosent matter cause I might uipgrade it in the future >.>

Check out cyberpower. I think they give the best deal. The below link takes you to a configuator which will allow you to add and substract "stuff". If you want a base machine with more or less there are other base models.

The below listing matches the above quote. You can add a flat screen for between 100~400. This system does not have an OS as speced. You will need to "get" one... You can down grade some stuff like the sound card or add stuff. There is some 5% discount. Check that out before ordering, that 5% may be below this price.

PS there are Intel base models as well.

http://www.cyberpowersystem.com/highendsystem/ultra6000.asp?v=d#configurator_top

CASE : NZXT Nemesis Metal Mid-Tower Case 400W W/ side-panel Window (BLACK COLOR)
CPU : (939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3500+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD : (Sckt939)MSI K8N NEO4-F nForce4 Chipset SATA Raid PCI-E w/GbLAN, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY : 1024 MB (512MBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY (Corsair Value RAM)
HARD DRIVE : Hitachi 160GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache -- Recommended
Hard Drive 2 : NONE
VIDEO CARD : NVIDIA Geforce 6600 GT 128MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD
VIDEO CARD 2 : NONE
Optical Drive : (Special Price) LG GWA-4161 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BEIGE COLOR)
Optical Drive 2 : 16X DVD ROM (BEIGE COLOR)
MONITOR & LCD : NONE
SOUND : Creative Labs SB Audigy-2 ZS 7.1
INTERNAL 6in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
Price: $1008.00

CASE : NZXT Nemesis Metal Mid-Tower Case 400W W/ side-panel Window (BLACK COLOR)
CPU : (939-pin) AMD ATHLON64 3500+ CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD : (Sckt939)MSI K8N NEO4-F nForce4 Chipset SATA Raid PCI-E w/GbLAN, USB2.0, &7.1Audio
MEMORY : 1024 MB (512MBx2) PC3200 400MHz Dual Channel DDR MEMORY (Corsair Value RAM)
HARD DRIVE : Hitachi 160GB 7200RPM Serial ATA 150 8MB Cache -- Recommended
Hard Drive 2 : NONE
VIDEO CARD : NVIDIA Geforce 6600 GT 128MB 16X PCI EXPRESS VIDEO CARD
VIDEO CARD 2 : NONE
Optical Drive : (Special Price) LG GWA-4161 16X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BEIGE COLOR)
Optical Drive 2 : 16X DVD ROM (BEIGE COLOR)
MONITOR & LCD : NONE
SOUND : Creative Labs SB Audigy-2 ZS 7.1
INTERNAL 6in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
Price: $1008.00

Is that in American or Canadian, if its Canadian, Wow, and if its american, wow That is an extremely reasonablee price for the quality of the computer, now, ive dealth with this kinda stuff before, are there any catches? things missing that I have to adD? ANYTHING?

Yep, that's good price. I bought mine 6 months ago so prices have come down some, still a good deal. I think I would go with an ATI card now though. When I upgrade my video next time that's probably the way I will go.

Is that in American or Canadian, if its Canadian, Wow, and if its american, wow That is an extremely reasonablee price for the quality of the computer, now, ive dealth with this kinda stuff before, are there any catches? things missing that I have to adD? ANYTHING?

Opps, I looked at shipping and found:

NOTICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS
We only ship to the 50 US states and APO/FPO addresses as listed in the selection box above. We do not ship internationally or to Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands.
We do not ship to an address that is different from the billing address, unless it has been listed as your alternative address on your credit card company. We will not be responsible for any delay due to the length of time taken by the credit card company for this process.
UPS Ground and UPS 3 Day Select shipping methods are not applicable on orders shipped to Alaska and Hawaii.
For purchases with 5 or more number of items, we reserve the right to adjust the shipping charge.
We do not tolerate credit card fraud, which is a felony. If it is determined that an attempted order is fraudulent, we will report all information to the FBI, at http://www.ifccfbi.gov

PS Tech support is a little dodgy. I use this company for the base unit and add stuff. That is if you want clear english spoke when asking for tech support, do not go here.

PPS Other than that, I noted the items missing and you can add those items.

Since you're in BC, I would check out www.ncix.com. They'll ship anywhere, but are located in Victoria (I think - somewhere in BC anyway).

I've purchased components from them several times and always had good service. You can buy components, or they offer pre-built systems.

I took a look at NCIX and YOU need to be very careful when you use their machine configurator. I would suggest to use cyberpower's configurator and match the parts at NCIX.
->Some red flags I saw when I poked around were the following:
I would go with a 21"/53cm case but I add/remove parts. When selecting a case, look carefully to see if the case has a power supply. There is a selection for a PS and some case appear to come with a PS. You can end up ording 2 PS, I think. Also, figure out what you want for components and have a spare or two bays.
->Do AMD's come with a heat sink in the retail box? I have only used Intel chips. If not then you need to specify a heat sink and I would suggest thermaltake. If you have a choice of chip types, I would go with 90nm rather than larger transistor lengths.
->Do you need a modem?
-> the keyboard that is default is cordless and battery powered. The biggest down side to battery powered anything is the weight and battery replacement. I used corded.
->I prefer an optical corded mouse.
-> I chose 1gig of pc3200 memeory. I prefer to buy parts that are the fastest for the parts chosen. In other words, the old navy saying is that you can only go as fast as the slowest ship. That is true with computer parts. Figuring out what the fastest parts that fit into the motherboard(mobo). So, those parts are mobo, processor, memory and hard drive. You can spend a lot on one part but that part does no good if your other parts can not take advantage of that part.

The base system I came up with was 1,433cad/1,177usd.
PS I just noticed that I choose a 3200 instead of the 3500. That may add 100~200 cad.
PPS be very careful before ordering.

Thanks you, that clears up some prolems I was having, I hate when I find a good pre-built system and it leaves out somethign important like a video card or something, whichch tacks another 200 bucks on top, so ill do what you said and see what I comp up with.


Edit: Also, what part do I need to hook up on ethernet/wireless connection to my computer... I'm really nto sure on that.

Edit: Also, what part do I need to hook up on ethernet/wireless connection to my computer... I'm really nto sure on that.

look at at this link which is on this board:
http://eq.forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?t=11767

Ok so I went to the local computer store called Mother computers, which was reccommended from by my friend (who just bought a $2000 computer =/) And got a quote for this system which I'm very confident will be my choice:

17'' X-Case V60 350W Beige
Asus A8V Skt939
AMD Athlon64 3.0Ghz Processor Skt939
PC3200 512MD DDR x2
Samsung 80GB HD w/ 2MB cache
Asus 52x CDROM Beige
Windows XP Home
LeadTek 6200 128MB
Norton AntiVirus
17" Envision Flat screen CRT
Multimedia Mouse/Keyboard (Optical)
Altec Lansing VS3121 Sound system w/ Sub-woofer

Total price including tax: $1472.76

Price of other computer from Discovery with worse parts than this one: $1686.00

The fact im still laying this stuff on you guys: Priceless


Tell me what you think, good and bad, anything I shoulda change, and most importantly how it will run games like WoW (WoW prodominantly though cause I really wanna play it)

I'm assuming that's in Canadian dollars. . . and since the majority of the forum-goers here are probably in the US, here's a quick currency exchange:

1,472.76 Canadian = 1,196.12 US

Courtesty of
http://www.xe.com

And I think you can do better than that system. Here's the default Value Pro setup from ibuypower.com for reference:

Case (Trinity ATX Mid-Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black )

Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 6-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black )

Power Supply ( Standard Case Power Supply )

Processor ( [939-pin] AMD® Athlon-64 3500+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology )

Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )

Motherboard ( Foxconn WinFast NF4UK8AA-8EKRS nVidia nForce4-Ultra Chipset w/LAN, 7.1 Sound, IEEE-1394, USB 2.0 PCI-E Motherboard )

Operation System ( MS Windows XP Home Edition w/Service Pack-2 )

Memory ( 1024 MB Dual Channel [512MB X2] DDR-400 PC3200 Memory Module Corsair-Value or Major Brand )

Video Card ( [PCI-Express 16x] Nvidia Geforce 6200 with TurboCache Supporting 256MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )

Hard Drive ( [Special !!!] 160 GB HARD DRIVES [S-ATA] Maxtor 160 GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache Hard Drive )

CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )

Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )

Speaker System ( 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System )

Network Card ( 10/100 Network Onboard )

Wireless Network Adapter ( [Special !!!] Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )

Monitor ( LCD Monitor ViewSonic 17" VA712B TFT LCD Monitor [Response:8 ms; Color: Black] )

Keyboard ( [Special !!!] Combo: ViewSonic Multimedia Keyboard + Optical Mouse Silver/Black )

Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard Warranty + 1-Year i-Care Deluxe On-site Service + 24/7 Phone Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

That comes to a total of: USD $1,164.00, or $1,433.04 Canadian. I'm fairly certain that price includes shipping ($165! Ouch!), and the ibuypower.com setup is easily superior for roughly the same price.

Cyber power dosent ship to Canada, in their policy section they clearly state that they do not ship to any other place but the 50 states of America, and dont ship to the Virgin islands, trust me Cyberpower was my first choice, but it dosent ship to Canada im afraid, until I find something better that I CAN buy, I'll stick with this one, plus, like I said much earlier in this thread, I want somethign that will play the games I want decently, I dont want or need a monster computer that could very well launch the world chache of Nuclear weaponry, so, I'll say again I do NOT want a monster, I dont mimd if the graphics are a little pixalated, only just a little though, I really dont mind, I dont need to have something that will make my believe im in the game, just something that willl play them decently, and w/o problems. :smile:

The system I mentioned was from www.ibuypower.com (http://www.ibuypower.com) , not www.cyberpowersystem.com (http://www.cyberpowersystem.com) .

The ibuypower.com site has an option for shipping to Canada, and bumps up the shipping costs from $85 US to $165 US to do so.

I'm sure the system you mentioned would run WoW adequately enough, true, but I'm just saying that for the same money (even factoring in the higher shipping) you could get a substantially better system from ibuypower.

It's certainly not a monster system either. . . I just ordered a new computer from ibuypower that was nearly $1,400 even without a monitor, and it wouldn't even qualify as a monster compared to the new stuff that's out there right now!

Play around with their options and you could even get a less expensive machine, I'd bet.

The ibuypower.com site has an option for shipping to Canada, and bumps up the shipping costs from $85 US to $165 US to do so.


where can I see this?

You won't see that option until you start the checkout process. Don't worry -- you won't actually be buying it until you put in the credit card number or whatever!

There'll be a little option to select your country. They look lile little US and Canadian flags.