View Full Forums : *FAKE* Are these 1.8 notes real or fake?


Warfur
09-20-2005, 11:30 AM
Yrys edit: Yes, these patch notes are fake. Look here (http://wow.forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?t=9378) for the real 1.8 patch notes.

Usually I'd assume fake but man this sounds EXACTLY like a real patch. If it is not real, then I tip my hat to whoever wrote the best impression of a real patch I've ever seen in any mmorpg.

http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=351735

The druid part is here:

Due to significant talent changes, Druids will have all talent points refunded and can be respent.
Your base damage in Bear and Cat Form is now determined by the DPS value of your equipped weapon (Note: your attack speed remains static at 1.0 in Cat Form and 2.5 in Bear Form). This change has been deemed necessary to provide Druids with a larger number of viable weapon choices at all levels, and a more straightforward method of improving feral damage beyond the maximum level cap. We believe that the increased damage of Druids in Cat Form (from wielding high DPS weapons) is acceptable, given the form’s damage dealing role. In our testing, however, we felt that Bear Form was dealing too much damage with certain weapons when taking into account its high damage mitigation and survivability. After considering a variety of solutions, we have decided to implement a flat 10% reduction to Bear Form’s base damage – which keeps the form in line with overall game balance, while resulting in greater damage potential.
You can no longer switch weapons during combat in shapeshift form.
Cat Form – Ability no longer purchased from a trainer. There is now a quest to obtain Cat Form.
Travel Form – New icon. Graphic also been replaced to look fiercer and have markings similar to other Druid forms.
Druids have learned to dance while shapeshifted.
There is now an animation for skinning and herb gathering in Bear and Cat Form.
Female Druids in Bear Form no longer sound like males.
Demoralizing Roar – Tooltip updated to display area of effect (in yards).
Entangling Roots – Now interrupts spellcasting.
Feral Charge – This ability will now port you even if the target is immune to the effect.
Ferocious Bite – Fixed a bug where combo points were lost on miss/dodge/parry/block.
Maul/Swipe – Tooltips updated to indicate the additional threat caused by these abilities. There have been no changes made to the amount of threat caused.
Moonfire – Now causes Nature damage instead of Arcane damage; initial damage decreased and damage over time increased.
Starfire – Now causes Nature damage instead of Arcane damage.
Nature’s Grasp – Special attacks (e.g. Heroic Strike, Eviscerate, etc…) will now allow the spell to root the target.
Improved Moonfire – Design changed. Now increases the damage over time of your Moonfire spell by 20/40/60/80/100%.
Swiftshifting – Design changed. When leaving a shapeshift form, your next spell has its casting time reduced by 0.5/1/1.5 sec.
Omen of Clarity – Can now proc in shapeshift form. Is now a prerequisite for the Inner Balance talent.
New Talent (Balance): Improved Faerie Fire – Tier 3 talent; Faerie Fire has a 50/100% chance to reduce your target’s Nature resistance for the duration.
Improved Thorns – Design changed. Now increases the damage done by your Thorns spell by 50/100/150%.
Moonfury – Removed and replaced by the new talent Nature’s Fury.
New Talent (Balance): Nature’s Fury – Increases your spell damage and critical strike chance by 1/2/3%.
Nature’s Grace – Design changed. Nature’s Grace is now a passive ability that causes all nearby party members to be healed for 10% of any spell damage the Druid deals. Is now a tier 4 talent.
Weapon Balance – Removed and replaced by the new talent Inner Balance.
New Talent (Balance): Inner Balance – Increases your maximum mana by 2/4/6/8/10%.
Veangence – No longer requires the Nature’s Grace talent. It now requires the Nature’s Fury talent.
Hurricane – Replaced in position by the new talent Dreamstate. Is now a targetable spell and a tier 5 talent.
New Talent (Balance): Dreamstate – Enter a Dreamstate, increasing your Nature damage by 15%, and increasing your mana regeneration while in shapeshift form by 100%. However, you may not cast healing spells while in this state.
Improved Demoralizing Roar – Removed and replaced in position by Primal Instinct.
Improved Prowl – In addition to reducing the chance of detection, this talent will now increase your speed while prowling by 3/6/9/12/15%.
Blood Frenzy – Is now a 3 point talent that gives your critical strikes from Cat Form abilities that add combo points a 50/75/100% chance to add an additional combo point.
Primal Fury – Is now a 2 point talent that gives you a 50/100% chance to gain an additional 5 rage anytime you get a critical strike while in Bear and Dire Bear Form.
Improved Shred – Talent removed.
Predatory Strikes – Design changed. Predatory Strikes is now a tier 6 talent that gives your Cat Form finishing moves a 50/100% chance to interrupt spellcasting and silence the target for one second per combo point.
Faerie Fire (Cat) – Talent removed.
Faerie Fire (Bear) – Talent removed.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Intimidation – Tier 5 talent; increases your threat while in Bear Form by 15/30%.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Feral Endurance – Tier 4 talent; increases your total health while in Bear, Dire Bear, or Cat Form by 2/4/6/8/10%.
Thick Hide – Design changed. Thick Hide now increases your armor value from items in Bear Form by 2/4/6/8/10%. Is now a tier 2 talent.
Feline Swiftness – This talent no longer increases your movement speed while prowled.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Alertness – Tier 5 talent; increases your defense skill by 4/7/10 in Bear Form and your chance to hit by 1/2/3% in Cat Form.
Strength of the Wild – Design changed. Strength of the Wild now increases the strength and agility of all nearby party members by 15% while the Druid is in Bear, Dire Bear, or Cat Form. No longer requires the Predatory Strikes talent. It now requires the Feral Endurance talent.
Improved Ravage – Removed and replaced by the new talent Fury of the Wild.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Fury of the Wild – Your next special attack has a 15/30/45% increased critical strike chance when entering Cat Form. In addition, you have a 20/30/40% chance to gain an extra rage point when damage is taken or dealt in Bear Form.
Improved Pounce – Removed and replaced by the new talent Primal Resilience.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Primal Resilience – Causes Frenzied Regeneration to covert each point of rage into an additional 0.2/0.3% of your total health and reduces the cooldown by 30/60 sec.
Primal Instinct – Is now a 5 point talent. The mana cost reduction of shapeshifting has not been changed. Replaced in position by the new talent Shapeshifting Mastery.
New Talent (Feral Combat): Shapeshifting Mastery – Grants the Druid the ability to shapeshift directly from one form to another at the cost of 25 rage from Bear Form, 50 energy from Cat Form, and the full mana cost of the Druid’s next shapeshift form from Travel and Aquatic Form. When shapeshifting from Bear to Cat Form, each additional 25 rage present adds 1 combo point if a target is selected.
Combat Endurance – Is now a 1 point talent that allows 25% of the Druid’s health regeneration to work in combat.
Improved Tranquility – Removed and replaced by the new talent Improved Rebirth.
New Talent (Restoration): Improved Rebirth – Reduces the cooldown of your Rebirth spell by 5/10 min.

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If these are real then I'm dreading the changes, I don't like the changes to the balance line after I just respecced to it, it looks like they are nerfing the + 10% chance crit bonus in balance.

Yrys
09-20-2005, 11:41 AM
Those were already determined to be fake. Blizzard reps have stated that the 1.8 patch notes have not even been written internally yet.

Nytewalker
09-20-2005, 11:44 AM
If this was true, Nature's Grace would absolutely rock. I could end up balance specced, and still heal at the same time. But alas. These notes were out before 1.7 went live. Even if they hadn't made an announcement I wouldn't have believed it.

Nyte

Cenaurius
09-20-2005, 11:45 AM
while they are very thorough, these notes also look very fake to me. example: "You can no longer switch weapons during combat in shapeshift form." - complete crap when you consider what has been blizzard's attitude all along. the notes also appear to contradict each other - "Your base damage in Bear and Cat Form is now determined by the DPS value of your equipped weapon" vs "we have decided to implement a flat 10% reduction to Bear Form’s base damage." well, which is it? if forms damage is based on weapon dps, they do not have any real "base" damage. you can't nerf what no longer exists.

Aflat
09-20-2005, 04:54 PM
Also anyone who knows about druid grips shoudl know that 5/10 minutes off our rez is absolutly useless. They need to reduce it to a 2-3 minute cooldown so we can make some attempt to recover from a wipe, if there is no other rezzer in the group.

Tygre
09-21-2005, 01:22 AM
Fake. This is a druid "wish list" in the form of "leaked patch notes". Many of the items listed here can be found in the "Wouldn't it be great if Druids..." posts in the Blizzard class forum.

Astrel
09-22-2005, 02:23 PM
Definately contradicting. I don't quite see the point of wanting Feline Swiftness to not increase movement speed while stealthed, but rather Improved Prowl increasing stealthed speed while at the sametime having a less effect overall than Feline Swiftness did. Oh well, definately fake, and why would someone go to the trouble of such a thing. To be honest I would rather Druids not become overpowered. Wish people would stop wanting that.

Yrys
09-22-2005, 02:58 PM
It's just in the nature of most people to want their class to be overpowered / better, which I think is a large part of why class balancing never ends. Not just druids, but any class. Even if people feel their class is absolutely perfect at one point in time, if nothing changes about the class, some will be unhappy 6 months later, feeling they need something new.

/shrug

Turik
09-23-2005, 07:29 AM
They are definitely fake. The guy who wrote them posted somewhere that he was bored at work and pretty much culled everyones wishlist from the official forums and wrapped it up to look like 1.8 patch notes.

The thing about changing all our spells to nature damage is a complete giveaway and scaling weapon DMG has been stated time and time again that this won't be being changed. However Cay has posted that they are looking to address scaling with itemisation instead

sapdonnelly
09-30-2005, 04:18 PM
Would the notes be out before the change? If not then it would be fake.

Cat Form – Ability no longer purchased from a trainer. There is now a quest to obtain Cat Form.


I just bought the catform last night 9/29 so that has not yet changed.

But the sad truth is I don't read the patch notes that are real so why would it matter if these are fake. (I didn't read all these either, just noticed the catform comment.) I just keep on playin' :)

Yrys
09-30-2005, 04:50 PM
Will edit thread title so people aren't confused - these notes are fake.