Yesterday I had my first ravage crit over 2k. It was 2143 and the best part about it was that it was against a lvl 60 rogue that was standing. Followed it up with a nice 800 shred and a couple more quick hits and he was dead. So glad it was a rogue that recieved my first 2k+ shot :lmao:

Also later on I had a maul crit for 1100+, can quite remember the exact amount but it was also a new high, and it was agaist a rogue......love it.

mine is 2105

im duoing some with a hunter who has death ray. we had of course a crit competition and we always did about the same crits. one day, he suddenly did 2 crits of 4k...he hasnt done it ever since. hows that possible? it was against a level 60 mob...mebbe it was a caster, i dont remember, but it seems strange tho, right?

sorry this isn't the proper place but:

meen: the quote in your sig ROCKS

Nyte

I got a 2050 crit once, but it was on a deer :(

...and I was proud of a 520 crit I had last night :)

My biggest crit to date was for 1071 with ferocious bite

highest crit for me was 2868 with starfire, the old curse of warlocks that gave -75 arcane resisdence to targets I got like a +1000 vulrability damage :wiggle:

highest crit for me was 2868 with starfire, the old curse of warlocks that gave -75 arcane resisdence to targets I got like a +1000 vulrability damage :wiggle:

nice! its a shame they nerfed the warlocks curse of shadows :(

My girlfriend plays a lvl 60 resto-specced druid. She was in BWL one night while I was at her place, and they were fighting Vaelestrasz. She got burning adrenaline, and ran to the "bomb spot". She was just standing there and i told her to start spamming starfire. Evidently she hadn't realised that BA makes all your spells instant cast, with a significant increase in damage, and she got several 3000 damage crits, a total of about 15000 damage in 10 seconds. Was funny.. :)



-Annik

mine is 2105

im duoing some with a hunter who has death ray. we had of course a crit competition and we always did about the same crits. one day, he suddenly did 2 crits of 4k...he hasnt done it ever since. hows that possible? it was against a level 60 mob...mebbe it was a caster, i dont remember, but it seems strange tho, right?

I can't believe I missed a Death Ray question, I gotta read harder!!

The Death Ray can indeed hit for 4k in any gnomish engineer's hands.

Death Ray will let you know how much damage it's gonna do by how hard the warm up damage does to you (for those that don't know, Death Ray is a 3 second cast iirc and hits the caster first while channeling). If the warm up does 80'ish damage it's going to land for 700dmg and can do 250dmg a tick for a ray that's going to land for 2k damage. Any of it's hits can be a crit... and the 2k crit = 4k damage. It's just rare that it puts out a 2k blast and it's rarer yet that'll land as a crit. Just FYI, I've never seen anything resist or partially resist a death ray.

I saw an epic duel between a hunter and a paladin one time. Generally these fights are heavily stacked against the paladin, but, in the humble opinion of this little druid, he's one of the best pallies on my server..

The duel began and he started beating on the hunter's pet while she shot him from range. He got the pet to about 25% health then stopped attacking... then a big blue lightning bolt leapt out as his deathray fired off, instakilling the pet.

Then he ran over and started beating on the hunter. The battle waged back and forth for about 5 minutes, until they were both on about 10% health and 0 mana. The hunter got a wing clip off and the pally had no mana to free himself, it looked like she was going to win... but then, at the last possible moment, the paladin threw a Dark Iron Bomb at her.

BOOOOMM!"!12 :D duel over.


-Annik

Pffttt engineering in duels and pvp is cheating in my opinion. Not using the abilities of your class

How is it cheating if you have to level it and it is available to all classes?

It'd not cheating. But it's cheap. Like using pots in duels. If you need to resort to that to win, meh.

I would agree with that.

I think it depends, in general it seems wasteful to use consumables in duels where nothing is really at stake, but if I spent all that time and money leveling my alchemy I should get to use it just like a leather worker will get the benfit of their self-made gear in a duel. I personally might have some buffing potions on (usually do) and people have called that cheap, but I wouldn't use a healing or mana one because I am cheap (don't want to waste the money).

Same thing should hold for an engineer, they should be able to use gear they've made (rocket helms, death rays, etc...), but probably wouldn't want to waste bombs etc...

not sure where I stand on the mechanical pets, would probably be legit to use them on a hunter or warlock, sort of tit for tat.

I don't use engineer'n in duels so much... but occasionally it is a good bit of fun.

PvP, everything/anything goes. It's hardly my fault that I'm better prepared for battle then my oppponent.

Last nite i got a warrior for 3,689 damamge with a ray' left'm at 1% health and the next root tick dropped'm.

Yeh, anything goes in PvP. The health/mana pots you can buy from PvP vendors are so cheap I don't even hesitate in using them. But not in duels.

To clear up a possible misconception here, the hunter in question was basically being a complete *******. Beating everyone in duels and then doing /spit, doing his damndest to show off his gear, being generally unfriendly, egotistical, very unpleasant to be around. If I looked up "Arrogant" on wikipedia, I'd half expect to find a picture of this hunter in the resulting article. And so the noble paladin stepped up to the plate and handed the hunter's ass to him. A classic case of watching someone getting exactly what they deserved, it was a beautiful sight to behold.


-Annik

My biggest beef with engineering in duels is you have to specialize in engineering. You can wear most pieces made for cloth/leather, etc. There are not any self binded pots made for alchemy, so anyone can buy pots very even. So I have spent alot of time going up in alchemy, what advantage does this give me in a duel? Virtually zero, perhaps I might have some of the more exotic pots, but I can't use a pot for anything else other then myself. I think a self binded pots I can stun or sleep a foe would even the odds. So in terms of dueling to make it fair you can say you can use you're engineering stuff if you don't use pots and I use pots since I'm in alchemy.. but better engineering gear and you can use most pots only once every 2 minutes.

i would like to know what your using as fre as gear and ur talents if its at all possible please

I agree. But the point of the duel was to kill the hunter at all costs, because he was being pretty unpleasant to everyone around him.


-Annik

i would like to know what your using as fre as gear and ur talents if its at all possible please

Who are you asking?


-Annik

my highest crit is 2411 ferocious bite on a scarlet monastery mob when i had full energy and tigers fury.

and i can get bout 1500-1800 crits on cloth wearers

In duels, depends on the duel. Its whatever rules you agree upon. In PvP, anything goes.

hit a 60 priest for 2069 with my death ray last night.

first time i'd used it or seen what they can do. was quite impressed :elfbiggri

I have to agree...In pvp anything goes. You just have to survive. But as far as a duel goes, I don't understand why people find it necessary to pop a potion when they've obviously been outplayed and just can't accept the fact that someone got the better of them that day.

My level 40 warlock has only lost one duel and that was to a hunter who popped an invulnerability pot at the start of the duel, and then when I still managed to get him down to about 10% health by that time it had been about 2-3 minutes of me fearing him, seducing him, and killing off his pet and what do you know, he popped a health potion and obviously had enough to finish me off. So I'm not sure if he just wanted to try out the potions effect on a duel, or if he really thought that the duel was fair. So i respectfully /bow'd him and went on my way, keeping the anger inside.

Yesterday I had my first ravage crit over 2k. It was 2143 and the best part about it was that it was against a lvl 60 rogue that was standing. Followed it up with a nice 800 shred and a couple more quick hits and he was dead. So glad it was a rogue that recieved my first 2k+ shot :lmao:

Also later on I had a maul crit for 1100+, can quite remember the exact amount but it was also a new high, and it was agaist a rogue......love it.

Gear?
Talents?
Luck?

I can hit 1.4k on the right target with a little luck...

Pffttt engineering in duels and pvp is cheating in my opinion. Not using the abilities of your class
Lol 5 people beat me to it

Gear?
Talents?
Luck?

I can hit 1.4k on the right target with a little luck...

I would also like to know what spec/gear/attack power everyone has when posting their crits. I've maxed out at around 1450 on a cloth wearer sitting down. I'm sure I could get more if I was full feral spec of 14/32/5.

My best to date is just over 1800 with an FB with full combo points, on a clothie. That followed by a 1800 ravage....needless to say, he died :D

*edit for clarity*

Ok, in cat my AP is 952 self buffed.

I have the first pvp set, the Unstoppable Force with a +25 agi enchant on it, and the Highlanders Leather Girdle ( 139 ac, +7 stam, +34 ap, +1% crit )

I only have a 22.80% chance to crit though.

Self buffed I have 3863 health and 3904 mana.

2500+ w/o and idiot buffs. :D with 1400 something AP

My highest to date Ravage was 1396 on a 60 priest but i just hit 60 the other day and im sportin BRD and below gear :) Merocious Bite was 1543 on a rogue

In cat im sitting with 246 Str and 132 agi with 920 AP and 21.5% to crit :)

My best Maul was 802 sofar in UBRS

(continuing the Derail)

Uvgrin, you are right you have to specilize in eng to be able to use most of it... but then look at the market for eng items... virtually none save a couple items that everyone can use and therefor the market is flooded with it

Depending on what im fighting or how overgeared they are in a duel i may pop a mongoose and armor potion before we start mostly cause they arent going to kill me and heck getting the stuff for those is cake as for healing or mana pots during duels hell if they wanna waste the money let em, makes no matter to me im still going to get you in the end your just prolonging the agony

goa? Firetree server? Dueled you in moonglade a few times?

goa? Firetree server? Dueled you in moonglade a few times?

No EU-Neptulon server. :(

Had my first 2k this weekend.

Tiger Fury + ravage when I stealthed up behind a mage.

It was really rewarding.

Not too long ago I hit a mage in av for 2.2-2.3k I had that berserker type buff you get from av too. My jaw drop, first lvl 60 I ever one shotted too! Without bersker buff highest I ever got was a bit under 2k like 1950, against a hunter if memory serves. I can crit at the 1.7,1.8k on a fairly normal basis.
I don't know my spec by heart like most, it's something like 14/31/5 I'm sure it doesn't add up but you get the picture.
I'm floating under 1k AP. Somewhere around 25% crit if that matters.

i can smack down a 1.4k crit with my moonkin starfire at the best of times...im using leather and as much +% chance to crit gear as i can find...so the spellpower may not be there but the frequency of crits are

and whats the deal with whiners about using pots in duels...i mean seroiusly...grow up all u 14 yo's

i got ganked outside everlook once (im a 60 moonkin) by a 51 rogue and a 58 warr(using invisibility pot, so i never saw him)..ended up killing em both hehe...then they got angry with me and chased me into everlook...and they got ganked by the guards! hahah world-pvp'ing at its best :)

then a 60 troll mage decided to duel me..i was like sure buddy lets do this thang

i remembered i had a health pot on me and a healthstone from a lock earlier...so i used em

seems to me that whiners that lose should stay whiners....so i dueled him again without the stone and pots and kicked him again..lol

he switched to his alliance alt and whispered me .."Why did u use a pot? Every1 knows that u cant ..."

I said "Really i cant? seems i just did"

Im not trying to be rude or arrogant, its all fun...whatever advatages u have at ur disposal, i think u should be able to use

in the same way ..i think an armorcrafter/weaponcrafter can use items they made..especially if they r bop items...r we really going to split hairs over this ?
why should some people get to use items they make while other people cannot? ...just doesnt make sense...but i hear it a lot

where does it end? i cant buff myself anymore ? lol

I think most people agree that you can use Pots in duels, you just shouldn't.

The reasoning being that you are wasting money in a situation where the outcome isn't really important (there is no down side of losing a duel). Most people duel for practice, or to compare skill. You are free to use potions against them, but they probably don't want to use the gold on just practice, so the advantage quickly shifts to the person willing to spend more to win and skill drops out of the equation.

Not many still call it cheating, but it definitely defeats the purpose. If winning is that important to you, drink away.

As GW said, in the straight up duel enviornment pots while not "against the rules", there is a general understanding that when in a duel it just isn't "good form" to pot it up. You may find it gets you a certain ( not so good ) rep with a number of people.

umm it costs me a few silver for the vials

and time to pick the herbs

what money r u guys talking about?


and maybe u guys didnt read the bit about the warrior that ganked me outside everlook..to my knowledge warriors do not have stealth talents....

Was he a NE? We all have shadowmeld, stealthing as moonkin is my fav.

Investment of time and money are the same thing, they are equivalent.

If you get jumped in open world, by all means use pots to keep from dying, thats not what we were talking about. Most duels are with the same faction, and winning isn't important as learning to handle different classes, etc...Now there is merit that people need to learn to deal with potters as well, but since the best counter strategy is to do it yourself, most people don't bother.

I hate that this thread has drifted so far off topic, it has served as a nice little victory lap for big crits for a while, and I have been anxiously awaiting putting my first +2000 SF crit in (1750 my current record)

I said "Really i cant? seems i just did"

Hahaha.. owned! :D

I totally agree with what you're saying. Got pissed at by an undead priest the other day (that jumped ME while i was farming) because I used pots. He was also AQ40 geared and totally decked on epixx. I just said to him "You spend your time farming AQ40 for good gear, I spend my time farming pots.. same thing.. live with it!". :D

Duels are cheap trash anyways. A player is NEVER going to be as prepared to get in any other pvp situation besides a duel. A hunter setting up his stuff for fear beast to get a feral druid, or someone pulling out their deathray and putting away their other trinket before the duel to 2shot you. It's never like that in a battleground. You have to be ready for ANYTHING. But in a duel you know who you're fighting and you have all the time in the world to come up with a cheap strategy. A mage beating you in a duel doesn't mean that if he was on the other team and you saw him in a battleground he'd ever beat you there.

So...nothing wrong with potions in battlegrounds and world pvp.....but I wouldn't duel anyone because duels aren't ever fair anyways, no matter how hard you try to make them that way. (Not to mention they'll start thinking that they're stronger than you if you lose...)

Duels are cheap trash anyways. A player is NEVER going to be as prepared to get in any other pvp situation besides a duel. A hunter setting up his stuff for fear beast to get a feral druid, or someone pulling out their deathray and putting away their other trinket before the duel to 2shot you. It's never like that in a battleground. You have to be ready for ANYTHING. But in a duel you know who you're fighting and you have all the time in the world to come up with a cheap strategy. A mage beating you in a duel doesn't mean that if he was on the other team and you saw him in a battleground he'd ever beat you there.

So...nothing wrong with potions in battlegrounds and world pvp.....but I wouldn't duel anyone because duels aren't ever fair anyways, no matter how hard you try to make them that way. (Not to mention they'll start thinking that they're stronger than you if you lose...)

Totally agree. I rarely loose against a mage in duels because i trash my armor stuff and go all out resistance and equip both my reflectors (not shadow ofc).. i have like a 99% win against mages in duels.. but more like 50/50 in BG's.

2393 now :)

Jeez, I have over 1100AP in cat and have yet to even see a 2k crit. What am I missing?

Jeez, I have over 1100AP in cat and have yet to even see a 2k crit. What am I missing?
moonkin form

jk, lol

Hush you. In the time it takes you to cast 1 starfire I will have crit you a few times with claw for 700 a hit.

I would never try to cast SF against a melee opponent.

More likely I'd see you running with the flag right to me while I am stealthed in moonkin form near your base, hibernate you, then blast you for a 1500pt SF followed immediately by a 500pt MF

Jeez, I have over 1100AP in cat and have yet to even see a 2k crit. What am I missing?

/agree

Highest is around 1950. Am I wrong in assuming that people are getting these crits on clothies or people below level 60? Highest that I've gotten on a clothie (sitting down) was around 1800. /shrug

Im gonna reroll on GWs server, power level a druid to 60, then camp GWs dead body after I kill him. Server and side GW?

I am on Perenolde, Alliance (hence my ability to shadowmeld in moonkin), and my druids name is Tieren.

I would strongly urge against it however. One of my best friends has a horde feral druid I run into in BGs from time to time, and we spar. He has learned to avoid me. Doesn't mean Balance is better than feral or anything overall, just in a one on one match up moonki has the edge. I mean seriously, do you actually try to scratch the eyes out of other plate wearers? Few good ferals bother when there are better softer targets around.

if you really want to own me play a shaman or shadow priest.

Mine was on a clothie, yes a 60 though. My highest on a warrior is 1700, which I LOVED :D